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Daughters '01 Caravan ?
#1
Apparently when she left work Wed. the brake pedal felt "weird", so today I took it for a short ride and stood on the brake @ ~ 30 mph.
Nose dipped, a little pull to the right, and then it glided to a stop. This basically told me it needs a master cyl. Seems to be stopping on the rear discs only.

Strange thing is, neither the BRAKE or ABS warning lights are on, no stored codes, and the self diagnostic sets the ck. engine light 10 X (which I'm assuming - silly me - to be "pass")

Also, on her way to my place this AM, the airbag light came on, and it came and went while I was driving it. Steady light - no blinks. Never happened b4 (she says).

I can't for the life of me come up with a scenario where a bad connection in a clockspring (air bag) could tie in to a brake problem.

Car has 116 K mi, and is CarFax clean
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'90 LSC/SE, Black on Black in Black, 347", T5, springs, ground effects.

'94 F150 4X 306, B303

'70 MK III, 76 K miles, pretty but has issues

'01 Durango, the wifes grocery getter.

Previously: '66 Cont'l Coupe, '75 Town Coupe, '79 MK V, '83 MK VI, '86 Cont'l, '94 Cont'l,

'89 MK VII BB

(and I have the unused parts to prove it Wink )
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#2
Chrysler product especially have a habit of the ignition switch going out. this will cause the air bag, ABS, heater blower motor, and radio to have intermittent problems.
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#3
Found out for sure today that the rear seal on the MC was leaking, and replaced the unit. Still have to bleed the system. Bought a pretty much worthless Haynes manual that says nearly nothing about the air bag system / sensors.
I have a sinking feeling there's going to be much more to this saga.
My Perfect 5th Vehicle Would Be A Towtruck

'90 LSC/SE, Black on Black in Black, 347", T5, springs, ground effects.

'94 F150 4X 306, B303

'70 MK III, 76 K miles, pretty but has issues

'01 Durango, the wifes grocery getter.

Previously: '66 Cont'l Coupe, '75 Town Coupe, '79 MK V, '83 MK VI, '86 Cont'l, '94 Cont'l,

'89 MK VII BB

(and I have the unused parts to prove it Wink )
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#4
I have replaced clocksprings before in dodge mini-vans. Usually, the cruise will stop working as well or any other steering wheel controlled stuff.

As for the brakes, I have replaced MC's before on the vans. Also, does the van has ABS?
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Daily Driver: 1994 GMC Sonoma, Extended Cab, 2WD, with the 4.3 V6 Vortec.
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#5
Quote:I have replaced clocksprings before in dodge mini-vans. Usually, the cruise will stop working as well or any other steering wheel controlled stuff.

As for the brakes, I have replaced MC's before on the vans. Also, does the van has ABS?

Yeah, 4 wheel discs and ABS.
Unforunately I have been down this road with this daughter before - never all the information at once, so I go in blind.
New mc bench bled fine, but the pedal goes to the floor - and STILL w/o brake or ABS lights coming on.
They come on @ startup and go off as expected for a functional system, but nada from then on.
As far as the cruise etc. I have no clue @ this point, and that F'in Haynes manual is a bad joke.
My Perfect 5th Vehicle Would Be A Towtruck

'90 LSC/SE, Black on Black in Black, 347", T5, springs, ground effects.

'94 F150 4X 306, B303

'70 MK III, 76 K miles, pretty but has issues

'01 Durango, the wifes grocery getter.

Previously: '66 Cont'l Coupe, '75 Town Coupe, '79 MK V, '83 MK VI, '86 Cont'l, '94 Cont'l,

'89 MK VII BB

(and I have the unused parts to prove it Wink )
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#6
Do a couple of hard stops in a dirt field and see if the ABS will activate. Sometimes air will get trapped in it and cause a soft pedal. If the pedal comes back, rebleed and do a couple more hard stops in a dirt field.
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Daily Driver: 1994 GMC Sonoma, Extended Cab, 2WD, with the 4.3 V6 Vortec.
Future plans/projects: Finishing that darn 64 Malibu SS
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#7
Took the mc back off this morning thinking (wrongly) that I might have missed getting the booster rod in the piston.
Then decided to ck the length of the rod vs the depth of the piston c'bore, and there was ~ a .05" air gap, which is fine.
So.... I cleared the driveway of anything I could run into, pulled the car out of the garage and found that it had MINIMAL brakes, but driveable - sorta.
O.K. so I need to bleed all 4 - no biggy - WRONG AGAIN Confusedlap:

LR caliper has the bleeder broke off AND a busted Allen driver in the rear bolt.

When my daughter bought the car in '09, she had trouble with the rear discs, and the Dodge dealer (now out of business) said they put on 2 new calipers. Maybe that's one of the reasons this "5 * dealer" is now defunct.

I KNEW this was going to be an adventure and I haven't been disappointed.
My Perfect 5th Vehicle Would Be A Towtruck

'90 LSC/SE, Black on Black in Black, 347", T5, springs, ground effects.

'94 F150 4X 306, B303

'70 MK III, 76 K miles, pretty but has issues

'01 Durango, the wifes grocery getter.

Previously: '66 Cont'l Coupe, '75 Town Coupe, '79 MK V, '83 MK VI, '86 Cont'l, '94 Cont'l,

'89 MK VII BB

(and I have the unused parts to prove it Wink )
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